Conversation | One Night in Leimert – Four Black Men & Bringing the Joy

The four black men sitting on a set by an artistic wall
Seated from left to right: Peter J. Harris, Writer-Author-Culture Worker River Green, Student/College Freshman, Marqueece Harris-Dawson, Councilman 8th District  Brandon Easton, Screenwriter/Comic Book Author. Foreground, Writer Janice  - Photo: Noé Montes

During historic unrests and national upheavals, four Black men gather in South Los Angeles to discuss joy

Political corruption and bigotry among Los Angeles public officials are rampant. Like millions of Americans, I have grown frustrated with the bile of hatred spewed by elected officials; fatigued by the embrace of “The Big Lie”—and the more than 300 midterm candidates campaigning as part of a movement of election-deniers; the same factions that reject the climate crisis, ignore basic infrastructure needs for oppressed communities, oppose critical race theory, ban books for school children and abortions for women.

I could see this coming—not exactly this, but after the 2016 presidential election, I knew, like most Black folks, trouble was coming.

These days, I find myself thinking a lot about fear and racism, and the dubious two-step African Americans have danced around since we were handcuffed and shipped to this country which we now call our homeland. 

Then I saw Regina King’s essential 2021 film, One Night in Miami—featuring a fictionalized gathering between Muhammad Ali (née Cassius Clay), Malcolm X, Sam Cooke, and Jim Brown during the 60s civil rights movement. But instead of issues on celebrity—central to Kemp Powers’ moving screenplay—I wanted to hear from everyday Black men talking about their lives and where they find joy in the midst of the unrest in this new millennium crusade to substantiate Black lives.  

So, a few months after the Jan. 6 insurrection, I invited poet-American Book Award winner Peter J. Harris, college freshman River Green, Los Angeles councilman (8th District) Marqueece Harris-Dawson and screenwriter-comic book author Brandon Easton to Ben Caldwell’s KAOS Network Art Center in Leimert Park.

It was May 29th and nearing the eve of the 100th year anniversary of  the Tulsa race massacre. The pandemic continued to plague African Americans disproportionally. The trial against the officers involved in George Floyd’s murder was still eight months away. Millions of Americans watched as the Capitol was besieged by rioters armed with guns and nooses; the uniforms of fear and racism.

Easton, Harris, Green and Harris-Dawson each started their lives in different places—a sci-fi nerd from Baltimore, a “light-skinned dude” hailing from Chocolate City, a mixed-race, cross-culture teen growing up in tony View Park, and a hip-hop-loving preacher’s kid from South L.A. There was shared praise for the influence of grandparents, fathers, mothers and siblings in their lives; for some that also included daughters, wives, ex-wives and school janitors (we see you, Abbott Elementary!)

The conversation leads with Harris drawing from his own work– The Black Man of Happiness Project, a 12-year exploration into the question: What is a happy Black man? A beautiful poem of his describing moments of familial joy is included at the bottom of this article.

Off-stage, I occasionally throw out questions to direct the topic of discussion. Then, like kindling on a fire, the 90-minute conversation crackled with energy and hope; with nervousness and restlessness, as these as native sons; a grandfather and fathers; husbands and partners in child raising; mentors and culture workers, each in his own way, architects designing a world—in the midst of everything–in which Blackness can simply be. As I eavesdrop on this this Black male bonding, I find hope, again, in the simple things.  

(This conversation has been edited for word count and clarity)  

Peter J. Harris sitting by colorful art

Peter J. Harris

Peter J. Harris: Like all of us, I have my stuff. From being married and divorced, to learning my child was molested by her ex-stepfather—and doing the work with her as an adult to help her heal from that–to losing a house in foreclosure. But in the final analysis, when I ask myself that question, I still say I’m happy. It’s that super-dimensional connection and blend of culture and excavating all of it.

One of the big things that drives me with this project is how do we get dudes in the practice of their own individuality, their own individual joy, their own particular happiness? Right now we’ve got the hashtag beyond #blackboyjoy—and I’m with it. But I’m always driving to learn what makes you, and you, and you happy?

River Green, a college student, sitting in front of a vibrant mural

River Green – College Student – Photo: Noé Montes

River Green: I go to a private school with a lot of kids who live in big houses and have a lot of privilege who don’t ever seem to be happy—and I’m always wondering: Why aren’t you happy? I know so many people who are concerned with making money, being with people who have privilege but are some of the most depressed human beings I’ve ever met in my life. I mean, I have a job. I’m moving out. I’m hungry. I’m happy. But I think it’s like, for me, it’s just choosing to live life to the fullest. I don’t need to be making millions of dollars to then decide, OK, I’m happy. Money can help you buy cars and the big house, but I think for me it’s photography and film that makes me happy.

For me, I’m going to school in New York because I want to experience some things with my film and photography, and that’s a perfect place to do that. And I want to travel. I think traveling, that would be exciting and fulfilling, like experiencing a lot of different types of living, yeah.

Marqueece Harris-Dawson, Los Angeles Councilmember, 8th District in front of the colorful art wall

Marqueece Harris-Dawson, Los Angeles Councilmember, 8th District – Photo: Noé Montes

Marqueece Harris-Dawson: I usually don’t go into any conversation where I don’t know what I’m talking about—especially being a politician, you don’t want to be caught talking off the top of your head. [laughter]

But this topic, there’s a whole bunch of levels, right? So, there’s the level of, just basic human happiness, of having someone to love, and something meaningful to do. Those are baselines, like, you’ve gotta have those. You’ve gotta have those two. At all times. You gotta have someplace to be, and you gotta have someone to love and who loves you; you’ve got to have something meaningful to do.

But then, for me, I think I’m happiest …That happens when you’re making art. That happens when you’re doing political work. Sometimes it’ll just be a moment when—and it’s the simplest one for me—it’s just a moment. You know, you’re working and wake up every morning and you’re looking through your schedule and you see you’ve got three and a half (hours) in your day that nobody else sees except for you! Then you can do things that you can’t do otherwise. When that happens, it’s just feels like you’re walking on air! It feels like flying. Yeah.

Brandon Easton, Screenwriter/Comic Book Author sitting in a chair and pointing to the left

Brandon Easton, Screenwriter/Comic Book Author – Photo: Noé Montes

Brandon Easton: I could agree with what everybody is saying. I’ll give some examples. I grew up a space nerd, and walking over here to Exposition Park and seeing the Space Shuttle for the first time—I know it’s gonna sound stupid, but (I) never saw a space shuttle before.  I’d watched them on television–saw two of them explode–but like seeing it, not just reading about it or seeing it on television, and getting to Griffith Observatory…and just standing looking over L.A. in this carpet of light. And I had some really dark times when I first got here [in 2008]. I didn’t get my first gig ‘til 2011. I used to work right over here at the [Baldwin Hills] Crenshaw Mall. I worked at that Game Stop when it was upstairs…

GREEN: I remember that…

EASTON: …yeah, man, and I would have some rough nights. And then I’d go up there [to the observatory] and feel like I was above it. I could look all the way to Catalina and around to Century City and so on—but those are the kinds of things that bring me joy; wrapping yourself up in the things you care about, that you love like a baseball game, a movie, photographs, political work and moving people from A to B.

When I used to teach, I’d have that moment where a kid got it…[unanimous nods of agreement]…and you’d only have’m for a few hours a day. I used to teach in the Bronx—Central Bronx. And for anybody who knows New York City, it’s 6 blocks south of Fordham University, which is the equivalent of 6 blocks south of USC—in 1989! And it’s just those things, and it’s difficult to quantify. But when you find it, you know what it is.

Like, I never had eel before in my life, and then I went to this place in New York City a couple of weeks ago and they’re known for their best, fresh, saltwater eels, supposedly. I don’t know? So, I tried’em and found something new that I love. And it’s that thing that you didn’t know you loved…

HARRIS: Yeah, bru…

EASTON: …it just kicks in.

And seeing other people happy also makes me happy. I’m a solution-oriented person. I don’t want to just talk about a problem…

HARRIS-DAWSON: They call that the paralysis of analysis

EASTON: So, it hurts me to see the way things are. But when I see people overcome it—whatever the circumstances—that makes me happy. That gives me joy.

The four black men standing together and smiling for a picture

Conversation | Black Men Love & Joy – Photo: Noe Montes

Sparked By Their Look of Love

By Peter J. Harris

Uncle Arthur’s the oldest
Daddy’s his youngest brother
we’re pulling on our summer weights
in the master bedroom being used as a dressing room
for Daddy’s second go-round as a groom

Daddy had asked Tweed to stand as his best man

Why y’all call Uncle Arthur ‘Tweed’?

I don’t know

You mean … tweed suits…?


who wants a nickname without some mystery to it anyway?

Uncle Tweed gleams off the mirror whipping his tie
into one of them perfect square knots the way old slicksters
who never lost their touch can still do

Daddy holds down the corner over near the window
next to the open closet door
(my tie sneering into the mirror)
I’m grooving on the gettin ready
cross from the groom beside the bed behind my uncle

every now & then Daddy peeps through the Venetian blinds
to see who’s strolling into his back yard where the reception
is hoping the wedding won’t last too long
once or twice he hollers to his brother about what long-time co-worker
or aint-seen friend just walked through the gate

Uncle Arthur only bounces ‘hmmmm hmmm’s’
off the mirror back over his shoulder

He’s like that
guess from driving tractor trailers cross country
all them years when words didn’t mean much
(only the 18-wheel rubbersong against highways)

one time Uncle Tweed asked me how the writing was going

Alright … but sometimes I miss working with my hands with other dudes
where I can see the job done right after I do it

hmmmm hmmm

… that’s alright too … but aint nothing wrong with writing
(him being married to an English teacher after all)

long as you can earn your living using your brain … you do it if you can …

… oh shit where my pants?! where my pants?!

Daddy paces in his small space
looking everywhere but right on the inside doorknob
where they hang still wrapped in cleaners plastic

they hanging right there … right on the doorknob

the mirror chuckles

when I used to lose stuff
asking everybody but my ancestors had they seen it
Daddy would say

good thing it aint no alligator it woulda bit your head off

when he finally slips out of what goes around
into his well pressed grey suit
Daddy eases over to Tweed

how you like this color?

he points to his pink tie

yeaaaaahhhhh … that’s real nice … that’s a real nice color

I don’t guess they wore too much pink
growing up in Powhatan, Virginia but it glows now
sparked by their look of love backstage in the Green Room

I twocents a quiet hmmmm hmmm

it ain’t too bad a color to outshine the sun in
years later on their long road of brotherhood
not one hungry alligator in sight

A black and white picture from the past

Sparked By Their Look of Love a poem by Peter J. Harris